House for All Sinners and Saints

  • House for All Sinners and Saints
    I am the mission developer for House for All Sinners and Saints in Denver, Colorado. We are an urban liturgical community with a progressive yet deeply rooted theological imagination. Check out our site for more info.

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    You can go to our Cafe Press store and buy t-shirts and other stuff with out Parchment with a nail at the top logo on the front - and "radical protestants; nailing sh*t to the church door since 1517" on the back.
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    The blog of a dad, husband, Lutheran pastor, emerging, failing, conversing, confessing.
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    Ian is the Anglican Priest at Moot in London.
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    This is a great blog from Down Under which explores Christianity and religious pluralism
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    Like Ward Cleaver with tattoos
  • Ian Adams
    Ian is the priest of the MayBe community in Oxford...I think he's pretty stinkin' cool.
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    cool chick...check her out
  • MayBe
    This is a great emerging church community we spent time with in Oxford. Their website is well worth a look, especially the page "the spirit of MayBe"
  • Mad Priest
    If I'm the Sarcastic Lutheran, he's certainly the Sarcastic Anglican...
  • Steve Collins
    Steve's an interesting and articulate emerging church brit.
  • The Mercy Seat
    This is a really groovey new church plant in NorthEast Minneapolis, amazing jazz liturgy. Their website is well worth checking out

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How shallow am I if I think this is the coolest pastoral letter ever, at least partially because you say "shit" (and because you do so in italics)?

Nadia, beautiful things can happen when tourists, transients, and news crews show up.

If this becomes a regular thing for you all, be careful to not let it go to yours or your community's heads. Fame can be fun but it also distracts. Remember that it is not your tent and you will be fine.

By the way, do you have a member in abstentia program? I kinda wanna join HFASS, I just have this tiny problem of living in another state.

Great decision Nadia! Proud of you.

EP

Thank you for your frankness, honesty, and public wrestling with all of this! And most of all thank you for reminding ALL of us that wherever we worship, with whoever sit directly around us in that space, it isn't OUR tent, it's God's. Peace be with all of you this weekend.

I suppose this is how the Taize Community was transformed into the worldwide ministry they now have. I agree with the other comments--thanks for bringing all your wrestling with this out in the open.

A good friend of mine in college once said, "You know a pastor is good when they know its ok to say things like shit and damn every now and then."

Wonderful musing! It makes me wonder about the day I visit Denver some time...I should totally round up as many Deaf people as I can and see what happens!

*wink*

Oh, and I really like "holy interruption".

I think the problem is a good one to have. Maybe Jesus wondered about the tourists when 5000 showed up to eat after he had a teaching session.

One more comment: For those of us far away, knowing more of HFASS's situation would help. How many people do you usually have on a late winter Sunday?

Can I bring my youth group to come visit you?

Nadia, you're just the coolest. Someday we'll get a chance to get down there too, but I probably won't bring more than my 3 boys :-)
(reminds me of when we were in Scotland and went to the little Presbyterian church across from the BnB -- there were 5 of us in my family and 2 parishioners and the pastor! [because it was the WAY early in the morning service] Needless to say, we stuck out a little.)

And my respect for you from a distance continues to grow...God bless you and the people of HFASS.

Wishing you loaves and fishes.

I am totally sharing this with our congregational council at our next meeting. They need to hear this desperately.

I was wanting to ask you about the nature of the pastor/parishioner setup, because there are just these problems with it that I'm not finding work-arounds for, and I've been earnestly trying things for thirty years. I wanted to run it by you because you're up there with the best I've seen.

But then, in Googling you, I found howling witch-hunters practically under the banner of the Ad Hominem argument, who, in all the furor of doctrine and wedge-issues have a tin ear when it comes to the GOSPEL, which you have a sobering and breath-taking fidelity to. No, really, that should be a consideration. Evangelical Lutheranism, if scholars like Leonard Goppelt are any indication, are very good for staying to the Gospel with Hubble telescope precision and you've brought it out with all that veracity in postmodernism. "God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, and has entrusted to us the ministry of reconciliation."

So, I'll postpone my general church concerns, since the pitchforks and burning crosses seem to call for support right now.

Look, any ministry is burdened by the logistics that support weekly worships. Anyone with thoughtful common sense will, or should, consider a local pastorship when presenting ad hoc requests for uninvited visits... yes, I said "uninvited"-- I don't mean the 'spiritually' uninvited, but rather the group tour types who feel "naturally" entitled to impose without regard to pre-planning. While well intentioned, ALL visitors who link up with a parish should really consider the "event-management" aspect of descending upon a regular worship. Come'on folks-- consider that local Pastors RARELY have support teams and resources to wrestle up extra "what-not" to support additions and/or outside requests during regularly scheduled worships. Fellowship during worship may not be about measuring sacristy supplies to projected attendance, but please, give a Pastor a break... If not, be prepared to pull up a piece'o'rug and dig in to the Homily or Sermon for your take-away... Worship take many to pull off logistically... THEY DON'T HAPPEN MAGICALLY!!! Call first... inquire... "offer" to help support and then show up early to pull chairs; stay late to put them back and maybe even bring a plate of brownies... Good on'ya Nadia... keep the faith. Focus on your message and let the sycophants grumble if they don't get coffee, danish and seat to fit their fat asses on during or after worship. Give me a break.

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