House for All Sinners and Saints

  • House for All Sinners and Saints
    I am the mission developer for House for All Sinners and Saints in Denver, Colorado. We are an urban liturgical community with a progressive yet deeply rooted theological imagination. Check out our site for more info.

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    This is a great emerging church community we spent time with in Oxford. Their website is well worth a look, especially the page "the spirit of MayBe"
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Glad I found your blog. I am looking for more blogs in this genre as I am starting seminary soon. I enjoyed reading many of your posts tonight.

A resounding "amen" to your words regarding studying other religions and not being turned to them, but enriched in our own faith by them.

"I'm Christian. I refuse to stay out of the church. The Biblical narrative formed me. Worship formed me. Prayer, the triune God, hymnody, communion....I can try and pretend that it's not who I am, but I'd be lying."

I REALLY REALLY like this.

1. I'm glad to see you back. My lurking self has been jonesin' for days now.

2. I wonder how common this experience is - the expirimentation with other faiths, only to return to the mould in which we were formed. It may not be everyday, but I'll guess it's more common than we think.

3. Great prayer!

I'm one of those white Buddhists, and I agree with you. I can understand why you'd have a negative reaction to the white Buddhists et al. Some of us violently rejected the religion of our culture and childhood. I used to harbor my own negativity. I had to become a Buddhist, an atheist, and much to my chagrin, become the student of a really ecumenical lama to lose all of that negativity and truly see the beauty in Christianity, Buddhism and every other religion out there. And I'm still learning this, every day, and I know I've got a long way to go.

That was the hard way. (Not that religion is ever easy for Buddhists or Christians or anyone else.)

I'm sorry for the personal tale -- this isn't my blog. I just wanted a chance to, as one of those white Buddhists, agree wholeheartedly with your post.

Buddha Baby,
I'm kinda proud to have a Buddhist reader. Thanks for sharing your experience rather than telling me off, which would have been totally justified, but not as interesting. I'm glad you're hanging around.
Nadia

heh Nadia thanks for this. You've put into words something I've been wondering about. I feel nurtured, shaped and energised for good by Christ and - despite all our shortcomings - by Christianity. Is that a possibility for everyone? Or just for me and people like me? Thanks for the prayer at the end of your post. Peace to you Ian

Thanks - love the prayer at the end.

I think we all struggle with not mistaking negative things done in Christ's name with the Christ.

I like your perspective as one who has studied other faith walks.

Right on. Thanks for your words. Particularity is everything! Who would Jesus have been without the context of his religion, his geography, and the politics of Rome? From the greatest to the least, we emerge out of our particularities. Now I'm not trying to sound like an essentialist regarding the importance of context and particularity, but what we experience indelibly marks us in our present and sends us into our future. Good on ya for staying in the conversation.

Right on. Thanks for your words. Particularity is everything! Who would Jesus have been without the context of his religion, his geography, and the politics of Rome? From the greatest to the least, we emerge out of our particularities. Now I'm not trying to sound like an essentialist regarding the importance of context and particularity, but what we experience indelibly marks us in our present and sends us into our future. Good on ya for staying in the conversation.

Very interesting! Is Truth a person?

I have tried to leave but it is like my tribe and I always come back - being an Episcopalian - I am fed by the liturgy.

I hear that a lot of people go to seminary and lose their faith. Someone mentioned this to me as a caution before I started at Iliff in the fall and I said, "It's ok, I'm a Unitarian, I don't have any faith to lose." But the thing is, I am sort of questioning what the eff I'm doing, and your post about not being a UU made me feel a lot stronger about my decision to stay in the church. Yer comments about white buddhists/muslims/hindus/etc really resonate with me, which is even funnier when you consider that lots of those folks co-identify as UU's . . .but
THANKS for telling me why yer a Lutheran, because it makes me wanna be a UU so much more, and be a UU who hangs out with and talks theology with rad Lutherans.

Andi,
Glad you're sticking around...what would losing your faith look like? Becoming Lutheran?
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"I'm Christian. I refuse to stay out of the church." I love this statement so much, both as a temporary Christianity expat (to neopaganism also, by the way) and as someone who often feels as if many of my coreligionists would like to push me out of the church. Keep testifyin', sister!

What a post, what a conversation. My denomination may have changed but Christianity is home.

Thank you! I tried staying away, because my sense of being betrayed by the church as well as by my friends was so visceral and overwhelming, but even though I hadn't grown up in the church, the rhythms of the liturgical year - the colors, texts, textures and music marking the events in the liturgical calendar were more real to me than any of my own individual history ever had been, and they had shaped my life into deep, indelible patterns and designs that of late still seem irretrievable. The church was my literal life; the ministry I did was the fruit of my labor and the fruit of my heart. Right now I'm sort of on the edge, doing some playing, teaching and preaching, while finally giving myself permission to stay away when I need to. Thanks again; I hope to come back to your blog soon.

Just wanted to say thank you- great post- challenging stuff!

Cultural context, I think, is especially important in Eastern religions. Sometimes people in the Western world find the superficial aspects of religions like Hinduism and Buddhism fascinating, but they tend to miss out on the deeper spiritual meaning.

Still, I was born and raised Catholic in a predominantly Hindu country, and I guess that turned out okay :)

Great stuff. I, too, took a detour through Goddess religion and Native American spirituality combined with 12-stepping as a young person. I'm back in the Episcopal church where I was raised...'cause nothing else feels like worship to me any more.

Thanks so much for this. I never strayed far as a Lutheran, but I know (and you said it well) that I was formed by the Lutheran church and I need to stay here.

Oh, are you ever not alone. I'm a left-of-liberal Episcopalian, and I've been there too. My tale is here:

http://barefootandlaughing.blogspot.com/2006/11/sustainability-scheduling-and-future_3927.html

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