The whole "gay" thing

There is a discussion about homosexuality on emerging women

Here are my comments I posted:

There are those of us out here who read the passages from the Bible that pertain to homosexuality as condemning sexual violence, not gay people.

In my theological purview it is difficult to picture a God who would not support love and commitment in a world so desperately in need of both.

I don't think God cares about sex. I think God cares about hurting others and hurting ourselves (through sex, words, images, consumption, commerce, you name it)

I am deeply committed to a denomination who does not allow non-celebate homosexuals to serve in ordained positions and this is deeply difficult for me. I have (as have many others) decided I love the Lutheran church too much to leave it as it is. We will not be silent, or silenced.

The whole "love the sinner, hate the sin" in reference to gays is total bull-shit to me. We could say this about abusive partners, the promiscuous (straight or gay), white collar criminals, any other collar criminal etc. But not gay people, or short people or Republicans, or people with bad hair (no matter how much we'd like to)

Can we please stop using scripture to proof-text our own bigotry...it has also been used to keep women out of ordained ministry, to uphold the legitimacy of slave-holding, to justify genocide etc...Find something else to help you hate who you hate.

Comments

[MadPriest]

Spot on. Couldn't agree with you more. It's so simple. Sin is hurting things. Why do we have to complicate even the simplest command?

Not sure about republicans, though.

[Anon]

Here's the thing that troubles me about your outlook:

According to many I'd be declared a "bigot", because I believe in my heart, through study of the scripture and the God-given logic my mind uses that homosexuality is a sin. Humans were not intended by God to have same-sex relations.

That said,
1. I would never, and have never, wished harm on a gay person.
2. I don't think God loves me more than any gay person.
3. I don't see myself as more righteous when compared to a gay person.
4. I would never claim to know who is going to hell and who is not, that's God's place.
5. I'm a sinner, just like everyone else in this world, including gay people.

So how am I a bigot? Simply because I interpret the Word of God differently than you? I am morally opposed to homosexuality, among many other sins, and I simply label us ALL as sinners. You label those who "use scripture to proof-text" (aka, have a different opinion than you regarding interpretation of the Bible) as bigots. I find this to be very hypocritical.

One last thing, you said, "I don't think God cares about sex."

Clearly, He does:
1 Corinthians 6:9-20
Galatians 5:16-21
Ephesians 5:3-5
1 Thessalonians 4:3-8
Hebrews 13:4
Revelation 21:8
Genesis 38:9-10

to name a FEW.

- A Lutheran Lady

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