House for All Sinners and Saints

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    I am the mission developer for House for All Sinners and Saints in Denver, Colorado. We are an urban liturgical community with a progressive yet deeply rooted theological imagination. Check out our site for more info.

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    The blog of a dad, husband, Lutheran pastor, emerging, failing, conversing, confessing.
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    Ian is the priest of the MayBe community in Oxford...I think he's pretty stinkin' cool.
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    This is a great emerging church community we spent time with in Oxford. Their website is well worth a look, especially the page "the spirit of MayBe"
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    If I'm the Sarcastic Lutheran, he's certainly the Sarcastic Anglican...
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    Steve's an interesting and articulate emerging church brit.
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    This is a really groovey new church plant in NorthEast Minneapolis, amazing jazz liturgy. Their website is well worth checking out

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Thanks for sharing. Your insight regarding se incurvatus en se is very helpful.

When I was first emerging from a life of passive agnosticism and began to have longings for a spiritually-focused life and a relationship to something greater than myself, I sat myself down in my very pragmatic way and asked myself what it was that I was really after. What I came up with could be summed up in two words: humility and gratitude. Later, I added self-respect once I realized that attempts at humility or gratitude without self-respect usually devolve into negative narcissism.

Of course, such foundations for happiness (either inward or communal) aren't uniquely Abrahamic concepts. But, since that is the spiritual lineage that I find myself drawn to, it is inspiring to be able look back through historic writings of spiritual or even moral aspirations and find such wisdom was ripe, hanging on the perhaps unnoticed trees, waiting to be plucked and eaten.

Thanks for bringing them to my attention.

awesome. miss you.

Thanks for this post

Without even trying - you are timely - thanks for your message on gratitude at the same time you have pointed out our brokeness-curved in upon self that only sees our own struggles and lackings.

I've been stewing on a response to this for a while...

I definitely appreciate your insight into the question of gratitude and limits. This is a good example of why Lutheran theology is bad-ass. :)

But I think I also take the story, and how we view it, in a little different direction. Namely, whether we say "God was/is good" or "God was/is unfair" (don't eat the apple, accept Jesus as Lord, etc.), we are in either case looking at it from the perspective of what *God* is doing to/for *us*. Which loses track of the truth that God is God's own person, in relationship with us--what would we think of a friend who judged *us* on the basis of our being 100% indulgent of their every whim?

Granted, that somewhat oversimplifies things, since our friends didn't, y'know, create us or have omnipotence or omniscience. They're not God. But still--I think there *always* is an apple, whenever we're dealing with another person with an independent and equally valid existence, with their own needs and desires. For me, I'm looking at the Garden less as a story of punishment (deserved or not), and more as a story of how tricky authentic coexistence is.

I hadn't really looked at it that way before your post. So, thanks!

Just another "thank you" to add to the list. I'm working in Belize - definitely not a rich or wealthy Christian community - but even here the pervading tv culture of "more = better" can be found everywhere. I'm preparing a study day on stewardship for ministers here (it will be next january); some of your comments will help my thinking on this.

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